Comments on: What’s up with Linux and Mac Flash performance? http://www.roytanck.com/2008/11/18/whats-up-with-linux-and-mac-flash-performance/ Fascinated by new technology Sun, 12 Feb 2012 00:04:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: No one should ever use Adobe Flash « The Usual Mixhttp://www.roytanck.com/2008/11/18/whats-up-with-linux-and-mac-flash-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-291949 No one should ever use Adobe Flash « The Usual Mix Thu, 20 Oct 2011 18:00:27 +0000 http://www.roytanck.com/?p=699#comment-291949 [...] or amateurish support of marginal platforms: the GNU/Linux browser plugin is probably an order of magnitude more resource hungry when reproducing video than a native video player with a similar stream. While [...] [...] or amateurish support of marginal platforms: the GNU/Linux browser plugin is probably an order of magnitude more resource hungry when reproducing video than a native video player with a similar stream. While [...]

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]]> By: Royhttp://www.roytanck.com/2008/11/18/whats-up-with-linux-and-mac-flash-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-85390 Roy Wed, 12 May 2010 06:48:23 +0000 http://www.roytanck.com/?p=699#comment-85390 Hi Nigratuo. If Flash did nothing else but play video, that would be true. I'm sure Adobe has neglected their Mac player for a long time, but the comparison would only be fair if VLC played interactive SWF files as well. Also, VLC plays most formats better than the official player, so it's not a fair benchmark ;). Hi Nigratuo. If Flash did nothing else but play video, that would be true. I’m sure Adobe has neglected their Mac player for a long time, but the comparison would only be fair if VLC played interactive SWF files as well. Also, VLC plays most formats better than the official player, so it’s not a fair benchmark ;) .

]]> By: nigratruohttp://www.roytanck.com/2008/11/18/whats-up-with-linux-and-mac-flash-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-85375 nigratruo Wed, 12 May 2010 01:32:50 +0000 http://www.roytanck.com/?p=699#comment-85375 you asked: So what’s up with Flash on non-windows operating systems? Are fundamental architectural differences keeping Flash from performing decently or is Adobe simply way behind in optimizing their player for other platforms?and answered your own question: For YouTube and Firefox there’s a greasemonkey script that circomvents Flash altogether and uses VLC to play the videos. This makes them play completely smoothly in full screen mode,So it is NOT a fundamental architectural problem. Adobe is just lazy. They don't care about Mac or Linux, so they don't code properly and efficiently on these plattforms. If VLC can, so also flash must be able to. you asked: So what’s up with Flash on non-windows operating systems? Are fundamental architectural differences keeping Flash from performing decently or is Adobe simply way behind in optimizing their player for other platforms?

and answered your own question:
For YouTube and Firefox there’s a greasemonkey script that circomvents Flash altogether and uses VLC to play the videos. This makes them play completely smoothly in full screen mode,

So it is NOT a fundamental architectural problem. Adobe is just lazy. They don’t care about Mac or Linux, so they don’t code properly and efficiently on these plattforms. If VLC can, so also flash must be able to.

]]> By: Royhttp://www.roytanck.com/2008/11/18/whats-up-with-linux-and-mac-flash-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-81010 Roy Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:11:46 +0000 http://www.roytanck.com/?p=699#comment-81010 Adobe has said that they're working on Linux and Mac hardware support. Considering how Linux is ahead of even Windows with this, I have high hopes. And yes, codec support is pretty poor, but considering how they were using a single, proprietary codec only years ago they're heading in the right direction.But more importantly, Flash isn't just about video, and will be less so when HTML5 comes along. It's also the most used tool for data visualization and games. Thats where hardware support is going to be making a big difference.I agree in part about Adobe though, only in my case it's the prices of their software that bug me most. CS4 costs twice what my PC did. I don't use PDF much, and with OpenOffice and a 3rd party alternative viewer when I do. Adobe has said that they’re working on Linux and Mac hardware support. Considering how Linux is ahead of even Windows with this, I have high hopes. And yes, codec support is pretty poor, but considering how they were using a single, proprietary codec only years ago they’re heading in the right direction.

But more importantly, Flash isn’t just about video, and will be less so when HTML5 comes along. It’s also the most used tool for data visualization and games. Thats where hardware support is going to be making a big difference.

I agree in part about Adobe though, only in my case it’s the prices of their software that bug me most. CS4 costs twice what my PC did. I don’t use PDF much, and with OpenOffice and a 3rd party alternative viewer when I do.

]]> By: Jessehttp://www.roytanck.com/2008/11/18/whats-up-with-linux-and-mac-flash-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-80603 Jesse Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:35:42 +0000 http://www.roytanck.com/?p=699#comment-80603 Lets hope adobe dies in the very fires it sets.10.1 Roy, does not support hardware acceleration on the mac or linux. Honestly, It completely depends on the codecs. To be honest, i totally hate that company."Hey lets create PDF, that way anyone can read digital documents!""great idea, but then, lets add 400 new useless features alla MS word so that pdf's made with Acrobat 7 can't be opened with 6!!, they'll be forced to upgrade!!$!!!fuck proprietary standards. Lets hope adobe dies in the very fires it sets.

10.1 Roy, does not support hardware acceleration on the mac or linux. Honestly, It completely depends on the codecs. To be honest, i totally hate that company.

“Hey lets create PDF, that way anyone can read digital documents!”

“great idea, but then, lets add 400 new useless features alla MS word so that pdf’s made with Acrobat 7 can’t be opened with 6!!, they’ll be forced to upgrade!!$!!!

fuck proprietary standards.

]]> By: Royhttp://www.roytanck.com/2008/11/18/whats-up-with-linux-and-mac-flash-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-69673 Roy Thu, 26 Nov 2009 07:53:25 +0000 http://www.roytanck.com/?p=699#comment-69673 Things are looking up though, with Flash 10.1 supporting hardware acceleration of Flash video. Without hardware support even a quicktime or avi 1080p requires a lot of cpu power, let alone within a browser plugin. Flash isn't so bad, and Adobe seems to working on improvements for Linux and Mac. Let's hope they bridge the gap before html5 takes over :). Things are looking up though, with Flash 10.1 supporting hardware acceleration of Flash video. Without hardware support even a quicktime or avi 1080p requires a lot of cpu power, let alone within a browser plugin. Flash isn’t so bad, and Adobe seems to working on improvements for Linux and Mac. Let’s hope they bridge the gap before html5 takes over :) .

]]> By: Podhttp://www.roytanck.com/2008/11/18/whats-up-with-linux-and-mac-flash-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-69649 Pod Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:31:23 +0000 http://www.roytanck.com/?p=699#comment-69649 Yep. Not only that, I've seen quadcore G5 Macs with decent video cards brought to their knees trying to play HD flash video. This turkey of a standard needs to be abandoned but so many webvertisements use it we're probably stuck with it. It's lousy with a capital L. Just now I played the Robin Moore video on youtube "Performance" in HD and it was running with 129% CPU utilization on a 2.5 ghz dual G5 with Safari 4.0.4 and while the audio was rock solid, the video was laughably slow, dropping frames and stuttering to the point that it was still trying to display frames from earlier in the video long after the music actually ended. Pathetic. There was a thread on this over at macnn.com but since the G5 and PPC architecture is abandoned at this point it's doubtful it will ever be fixed. Yep. Not only that, I’ve seen quadcore G5 Macs with decent video cards brought to their knees trying
to play HD flash video. This turkey of a standard needs to be abandoned but so many webvertisements
use it we’re probably stuck with it. It’s lousy with a capital L. Just now I played the Robin Moore video on
youtube “Performance” in HD and it was running with 129% CPU utilization on a 2.5 ghz dual G5 with
Safari 4.0.4 and while the audio was rock solid, the video was laughably slow, dropping frames and
stuttering to the point that it was still trying to display frames from earlier in the video long after the music
actually ended. Pathetic. There was a thread on this over at macnn.com but since the G5 and PPC
architecture is abandoned at this point it’s doubtful it will ever be fixed.

]]> By: Petehttp://www.roytanck.com/2008/11/18/whats-up-with-linux-and-mac-flash-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-58584 Pete Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:39:00 +0000 http://www.roytanck.com/?p=699#comment-58584 Roy,I have a MacIntel so I empathise wholeheartedly. But disabling the Flash Player 10 'hardware acceleration' setting did nothing for me whatsoever.Adobe are just useless at porting their software for OS X. Whether it's Photoshop, Flash Pro or any other myriad software they produce, their Mac versions are ALWAYS resource hogs.It's as though they develop in VB for WIndows, then press a quick and dirty 'Export for Unix' button. They just don't know how to produce SW for unix-based systems. Roy,

I have a MacIntel so I empathise wholeheartedly. But disabling the Flash Player 10 ‘hardware acceleration’ setting did nothing for me whatsoever.

Adobe are just useless at porting their software for OS X. Whether it’s Photoshop, Flash Pro or any other myriad software they produce, their Mac versions are ALWAYS resource hogs.

It’s as though they develop in VB for WIndows, then press a quick and dirty ‘Export for Unix’ button. They just don’t know how to produce SW for unix-based systems.

]]> By: Seanhttp://www.roytanck.com/2008/11/18/whats-up-with-linux-and-mac-flash-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-37920 Sean Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:07:20 +0000 http://www.roytanck.com/?p=699#comment-37920 The turning off hardware accleration fixed 90% of the problem, thanks. The turning off hardware accleration fixed 90% of the problem, thanks.

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