Comments on: Why am I still not excited about Tegra? http://www.roytanck.com/2009/06/02/why-am-i-still-not-excited-about-tegra/ Fascinated by new technology Sun, 12 Feb 2012 00:04:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Doughttp://www.roytanck.com/2009/06/02/why-am-i-still-not-excited-about-tegra/comment-page-1/#comment-77786 Doug Fri, 19 Feb 2010 20:40:10 +0000 http://www.roytanck.com/?p=1840#comment-77786 one thing missing regarding who great Windows CE is and the Tegra platform, Windows CE only supports one CPU and a max of 512 MB of memory. So why would anyone consider the Cortex-a9 dual CPU based Tegra SoC with Windows CE? It is not a smart move for Nvidia to stay so close to Microsoft on this when all indications are showing that multi-core ARM SoCs are present and future. I think even TI has a dual CPU a9 SoC out and there are going to be many more this year( 2010 ).it sure looks like on phones, the iPhone knocked Windows CE with an upper cut but Android hit it with a flurry( many many devices released ) and it's knocked out. Windows Mobile 7? Really? And with GPS in all these new smartphones, how much longer does WindowsCE have in dedicated GPS units? Garmin already has started using Linux in some of theirs and the Garmin phone runs Linux too.If Nvidia sticks with Microsoft and only give Linux a glancing effort on Tegra, developers will look elsewhere for their multi-core ARM chips and Tegra will go nowhere evermore. one thing missing regarding who great Windows CE is and the Tegra platform, Windows CE only supports one CPU and a max of 512 MB of memory. So why would anyone consider the Cortex-a9 dual CPU based Tegra SoC with Windows CE? It is not a smart move for Nvidia to stay so close to Microsoft on this when all indications are showing that multi-core ARM SoCs are present and future. I think even TI has a dual CPU a9 SoC out and there are going to be many more this year( 2010 ).

it sure looks like on phones, the iPhone knocked Windows CE with an upper cut but Android hit it with a flurry( many many devices released ) and it’s knocked out. Windows Mobile 7? Really? And with GPS in all these new smartphones, how much longer does WindowsCE have in dedicated GPS units? Garmin already has started using Linux in some of theirs and the Garmin phone runs Linux too.

If Nvidia sticks with Microsoft and only give Linux a glancing effort on Tegra, developers will look elsewhere for their multi-core ARM chips and Tegra will go nowhere evermore.

]]> By: webtimihttp://www.roytanck.com/2009/06/02/why-am-i-still-not-excited-about-tegra/comment-page-1/#comment-49932 webtimi Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:48:01 +0000 http://www.roytanck.com/?p=1840#comment-49932 So it runs desktop Firefox 3.5 with flash and it looks fast. can play 720p (or 1080p on top version) can stream HD over net and draws very little power even playing HD.CE was never dead. Most SatNav’s run it. Windows Mobile runs on top of it. And you would be surprised how many embeded devices (industrial or consumer) run CE.Ok so it’s not a full desktop OS like you say but if it can run firefox 3.5, it’s stable (soft re-sets in a second) offers instant on, offers sync of pims from desktop then I can’t see why the OS is an issue. In the past software availablility may have been an issue for CE but if Nvidia can get the Desktop Firefox running on it and Adobe working on flash then I am happy to say I think Nvidia isn’t having any trouble attracting apps for it. Open Office next anyone?If Nvidia can attract the apps and has a nice UI, runs faster than most cheaper atom netbooks, lasts longer than most atom netbooks and costs less then I for one will be happy to stump up some cash. My only hope is the do include syncable PIM software and don’t just sell them through mobile telco’s. Nvidia must sell some of these units direct to consumers in the way the original netbooks did. So it runs desktop Firefox 3.5 with flash and it looks fast. can play 720p (or 1080p on top version) can stream HD over net and draws very little power even playing HD.

CE was never dead. Most SatNav’s run it. Windows Mobile runs on top of it. And you would be surprised how many embeded devices (industrial or consumer) run CE.

Ok so it’s not a full desktop OS like you say but if it can run firefox 3.5, it’s stable (soft re-sets in a second) offers instant on, offers sync of pims from desktop then I can’t see why the OS is an issue. In the past software availablility may have been an issue for CE but if Nvidia can get the Desktop Firefox running on it and Adobe working on flash then I am happy to say I think Nvidia isn’t having any trouble attracting apps for it. Open Office next anyone?

If Nvidia can attract the apps and has a nice UI, runs faster than most cheaper atom netbooks, lasts longer than most atom netbooks and costs less then I for one will be happy to stump up some cash. My only hope is the do include syncable PIM software and don’t just sell them through mobile telco’s. Nvidia must sell some of these units direct to consumers in the way the original netbooks did.

]]> By: Royhttp://www.roytanck.com/2009/06/02/why-am-i-still-not-excited-about-tegra/comment-page-1/#comment-49298 Roy Sun, 07 Jun 2009 13:00:43 +0000 http://www.roytanck.com/?p=1840#comment-49298 Question is of course whether all that will happen. Firefox alone is nice, but I think I'd prefer some brand of Linux because of the abundance of (mostly free) software that usually comes with the penguin. But that's just me I guess. I just hope Tegra won't be let down by its software options. Question is of course whether all that will happen. Firefox alone is nice, but I think I’d prefer some brand of Linux because of the abundance of (mostly free) software that usually comes with the penguin. But that’s just me I guess. I just hope Tegra won’t be let down by its software options.

]]> By: johnhttp://www.roytanck.com/2009/06/02/why-am-i-still-not-excited-about-tegra/comment-page-1/#comment-49128 john Sat, 06 Jun 2009 14:09:54 +0000 http://www.roytanck.com/?p=1840#comment-49128 So it runs desktop Firefox 3.5 with flash and it looks fast. can play 720p (or 1080p on top version) can stream HD over net and draws very little power even playing HD.CE was never dead. Most SatNav's run it. Windows Mobile runs on top of it. And you would be surprised how many embeded devices (industrial or consumer) run CE.Ok so it's not a full desktop OS like you say but if it can run firefox 3.5, it's stable (soft re-sets in a second) offers instant on, offers sync of pims from desktop then I can't see why the OS is an issue. In the past software availablility may have been an issue for CE but if Nvidia can get the Desktop Firefox running on it and Adobe working on flash then I am happy to say I think Nvidia isn't having any trouble attracting apps for it. Open Office next anyone?If Nvidia can attract the apps and has a nice UI, runs faster than most cheaper atom netbooks, lasts longer than most atom netbooks and costs less then I for one will be happy to stump up some cash. My only hope is the do include syncable PIM software and don't just sell them through mobile telco's. Nvidia must sell some of these units direct to consumers in the way the original netbooks did.JOhn So it runs desktop Firefox 3.5 with flash and it looks fast. can play 720p (or 1080p on top version) can stream HD over net and draws very little power even playing HD.

CE was never dead. Most SatNav’s run it. Windows Mobile runs on top of it. And you would be surprised how many embeded devices (industrial or consumer) run CE.

Ok so it’s not a full desktop OS like you say but if it can run firefox 3.5, it’s stable (soft re-sets in a second) offers instant on, offers sync of pims from desktop then I can’t see why the OS is an issue. In the past software availablility may have been an issue for CE but if Nvidia can get the Desktop Firefox running on it and Adobe working on flash then I am happy to say I think Nvidia isn’t having any trouble attracting apps for it. Open Office next anyone?

If Nvidia can attract the apps and has a nice UI, runs faster than most cheaper atom netbooks, lasts longer than most atom netbooks and costs less then I for one will be happy to stump up some cash. My only hope is the do include syncable PIM software and don’t just sell them through mobile telco’s. Nvidia must sell some of these units direct to consumers in the way the original netbooks did.

JOhn

]]> By: Royhttp://www.roytanck.com/2009/06/02/why-am-i-still-not-excited-about-tegra/comment-page-1/#comment-48717 Roy Thu, 04 Jun 2009 07:14:12 +0000 http://www.roytanck.com/?p=1840#comment-48717 Android would probably be great! I've not played with it for more than 5 minutes, but it's open source, built for the web and lightweight. But it's not here yet. I think Tegra is going to have a hard time achieving any kind of market penetration without proper software. At least in netbook-like situations. Phones and MIDs are probably fine, most consumers don't expect a full-fledged OS on those. Android would probably be great! I’ve not played with it for more than 5 minutes, but it’s open source, built for the web and lightweight. But it’s not here yet. I think Tegra is going to have a hard time achieving any kind of market penetration without proper software. At least in netbook-like situations. Phones and MIDs are probably fine, most consumers don’t expect a full-fledged OS on those.

]]> By: Lightmasterhttp://www.roytanck.com/2009/06/02/why-am-i-still-not-excited-about-tegra/comment-page-1/#comment-48612 Lightmaster Wed, 03 Jun 2009 17:14:48 +0000 http://www.roytanck.com/?p=1840#comment-48612 "For now, this seems to leave Windows CE, an ancient Microsoft product that I thought had vanished altogether." What about Android? NVIDIA is working on a version of Google Android that plays 1080p HD videos: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10252757-64.htmlI would not want to have a device running Windows CE without a possibility to install any other operating system, but if Android becomes an alternative... why not? And perhaps some freak decides to port Ubuntu Mobile for Tegra... “For now, this seems to leave Windows CE, an ancient Microsoft product that I thought had vanished altogether.”
What about Android? NVIDIA is working on a version of Google Android that plays 1080p HD videos:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10252757-64.html

I would not want to have a device running Windows CE without a possibility to install any other operating system, but if Android becomes an alternative… why not? And perhaps some freak decides to port Ubuntu Mobile for Tegra…

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